Nesanelist Accelerationism

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My god you are a absolute idiot. Contradictions here are plenty so let me tear every single one to pieces. Lets start with your alignments: "Culturally Ultra-Progressive", "Monarchists", and "Nationalists" these three all contradict each other at their core for rather simple reasons. Monarchism and Nationalism obviously contradict each other because they are entirely different justifications for the state. One is based on the nation being the foundation of the state, the other is based on the monarchic family being the foundation of the state, you could argue something like "Well but corporate monarchism" sorry to tell you but that isn't monarchism because historically it does not line up with the past justifications for monarchism (which are just the monarchic dynasty being sent from god). Now to how "Culturally Ultra-Progressive" contradicts at least one of these, if not both. The term doesn't mean anything that is obvious but one can imagine trying to grasp what it means. Simply it contradicts the justifications for the state you laid bare because if you are ultra-progressive in the sense of how Nick Land (as the march of capital towards becoming the cold god) or any other neoreactionary or deleuzian views the state you would come to realize they do not justify it in any way shape or form because they think the days of the state as a entity are numbered (read nick lands essay "Cold Anarchy", read moldbugs book "Patchwork", and read deleuze's and guattari's "A Thousand Plateaus" if you want to check what I am saying.

Now to your "Libertarianism" you do not seem to understand what Libertarianism is since the idea of both economic freedom and personal freedom, yet you only ascribe to the economic ideas of Libertarianism? That is quite curious for the simple fact that even Post-Libertarians claim to uphold personal freedoms via up-keeping a leviathan state which insures those Freedoms.

Now your Individualism contradicts a lot of the kind of Anti-Humanist ideas espoused by Nick Land (there are other forms of Anti-Humanist which very much fall in line with individualism just not Accelerationist Anti-Humanism)

Your Environmentalism makes no sense like genuinely it contradicts basically every stance I have found on this page.

Now what I find really funny is your pro-ROC shit like goddamn dude you are aware that Nick Land, Moldbug and Hoppe and like 90% of neoreactionaries think that CCP are the future of China and are the true force of technocapital, they trace this back to mao's will to industrialize the work force of china on which the basis of dengist reforms lies through which sino-futurism is possible i.e. for every neoreactionary china is successful and the future because of the CCP.

Now to your components: I see no marx here which is confusing to say the least since accelerationism (yes the landian kind) was founded on post-marxist ideas and grew from a kernel of marxism. Now to what is actually in your components and not what it is missing. Your Nietzscheanism contradicts your Accelerationism since Accelerationism embraces nihilism instead of absolutely hating it (which is imo the most important part of Nietzsche, his hate for nihilism), your faustianism is funny because it is inherently humanist by putting humans into the center of existence as striving creatures not as servants of technocapital controlled by it from beyond linear time. Your Objectivism is fucking stupid look at what deleuze, nick land, moldbug and the austrian economists thought of Ayn Rand not even mentioning her ascribing a human nature via her ethical egoism and psychological egoism making her a humanist. Artifism doesn't exist it isn't real it was created by a pcb user. Batailleanism contradicts the asutrain school since Batailles ideas of Base Materialism with the Austrian School's denial of any way one could test economic theories in the real world in any setting. Capitalist Transhumanism implies a Humanism (which sorry you are a Humanist) and also lol lmao your idea of Cultural Darwinism is fucking stupid because if you view this from a neoreactionary lens the culture moldbug supports (I assume you support it the same cus well why else would you cite moldbug that is one of his central points) wold lose because the cathedral is a almighty swallowing force. Your Deleuzianism contradicts your eugenism and social darwinism (read what ray brassier had to say about vitalism in the context of deleuze). You are absolutely fucking stupid futurism contradicts accelerationism on multiple levels it is a heroic romantic nationalism which puts human spirit at the center of all aesthetic existence, also accelerationism contradicts your nationalism because reasons as for why stated in my first paragraph and I think I have touched on about everything.

Tldr: your politics make no sense and are extremely contradictory it just looks like you stole from quarks influences to sound smart but failed horribly and you likely just took this shit on to "MuH cUlTuRe WaR" because I can not explain in any other way how someone could come to these kinds of contradictory positions like please before you cite any ideology as a influence read a book on it. You're not a Neoreactionary, you're not a Landian Accelerationist, you're not a Anti-Humanist, you're not a Futurist, you're not a Monarchist, you're not a Post-Libertarian or a Libertarian, you're not a Bataillean, you're not a Nietzschean, you're just a extremely bad larper who knows nothing about the ideologies he claims to follow. If you think I got anything wrong about you let me know because I want to know what you believe so I can critique it -Aycee Lovelace (talk) 10:13, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

P.S. here is my discord if you want to respond Aycee Lovelace#2906


 * [[File:NewMatthism3.1.png]] The Omni : While not entirely wrong, your criticism isn't totally correct. Let's start with the things you consider incompatible with Landian acc. Sure, Accelerationism is usually nihilist, which goes against what Nietzsche said, but a lot of acc theory is based on the overman and the will-to-power. Also, Individualism being incompatible with landian acc is just wrong. Regarding Objectivism and the Austrians, Mises called Rand "the most courageous man in America". Also, what you say about Deleuze has to be seen from the perspective of "partially", most certainly, Nesanael just believes in the stuff relevant to acceleration (Rhizomes, Desiring Machines, Territorial Analysis).

Bro you are a quark imitator and you're absolutely wrong. So the 'overman' that is entirely false that it is important to accelerationism "History is industrial history, and it only has one goal, which is God. Nihilism is the loss of this goal, the nullification of man’s end, the reversion of all work to waste. It is in this sense that history is aborted by zero. There are those who in their eagerness for the continuation of effort take Nietzsche’s overman to be a new goal" - Nick Land in The Thirst for Annihilation, this contradicts the overman in accelerationist ideology in so far as that accelerationism wants to abort humanity as such the overman is a refusal of the man's end and in fact contradicts the vehement nihilism of land (also it isn't just usually nihilist. Accelerationism is by its definition nihilist).

The will-to-power is a interesting thing in accelerationism because Nick land understands the phrase very differently from 99% of people as a sort of a unconscious artistic will which permeates all not a will to greatness. I am not denying that Nick land based a lot of his ideas on Nietzsche because doing that would be stupid but it is even stupider to say that one is both a Nietzschean and a Accelerationists due to the fact that Land essentially reversed and put Nietzsches analysis into a heideggerian framework. (When speaking of Nietzsche in the context of Accelerationism it is always important to account for the fact that we are talking about Land taking from Deleuzes interpretation.)

also lol lmao how is it wrong (that individualism doesn't contradict accelerationism)

You are aware that Ayn Rand was a women and also the miseans only thought of her as good in so far as that she stirred up anti-communist sentiment.

I am sorry what. Accelerationism fundamentally relies on a subversion of deleuzianism and as such takes the deleuzian system as its own and adopts it leaving only behind vitalism (without which deleuzianism doesn't work) you can go on and on about parts Land copies from deleuze his transcendental materialism, his aesthetics, his schizoanalysis like c'mon. -Aycee Lovelace &lt;3 (talk)


 * [[File:NewMatthism3.1.png]] : I can get behinde some of that, but one thing I know for certain is the conetion between Rand and Mises. Yes, Rand was a women, and Mises still called her a man, and she liked it. The other stuff you might be correct on, as I only have a basic understanding of acc theory and deleuzes ideas.

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