Pantheonism

Pantheonism is a leftist, culturally variable, statist Ideology. It is the self-Insert ideology of the Wiki user Pantheon.

Pantheonism seeks to unite humanity within a federal gouvernment with an Economy built around the principles of Progressive utilization theory, Social Distributism and Guild Socialism, under one banner in order to explore and conquer the stars and to end violent conflicts on earth.

History
Through the vast and dark depths of the Cosmos, there is no life known except one one planet, known as earth where a civilisation known as humanity emerged.

Influencial Persons
Note: I don't agree with everything those figures said or did but these had in some form an impact on my ideology or philosophy.

Iron Age

 * [[File:Hyperborea.png]] Abraris the Hyperborean (8th to 6th century BCE)
 * [[File:Athdem.png]] Solon (638 BCE-558 BCE)
 * [[File:Hellenistheoicon.png]] Thales of Miletus (624/623–548/545 BCE)
 * [[File:Zoroastrian_Theocracy.png]] Cyrus the Great  (600–530 BCE)
 * [[File:Confucianism.png]] Confucius/Master Kong (551–479 BCE)
 * [[File:Strato.png]] General Sun Tzu (544-496 BCE)
 * [[File:Socrates.png]] Socrates (470 BCE-399 BCE)
 * [[File:Plato.png]] Plato (424/423 – 348/347 BCE)
 * [[File:Confucianism.png]] Mencius/Mengzi (372–289 BCE)

Pax Romana

 * [[File:Caesar.png]] Augustus Ceasar (64BC-14AD)
 * [[File:Marcus Aurelius.png]] Marcus Aurelius (121-180)
 * [[File:Caesar.png]] Juilan the Apostate (331–363)

Medival Age

 * [[File:Gero.png]] Lembitu, Elder of Sakala (?-1217)
 * [[File:PCB-Thomism.png]] Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274) (Just War Theory)

Renaissance

 * [[File:Utopianism2.png]] Thomas More (1478-1535)

Baroque

 * [[File:Descarte.png]] René Descartes (1596-1650)

Enlightenment

 * [[File:Monkeyzz-Enlightenment.png]] Montesquieu (1689-1755)
 * [[File:Mil.png]] King Frederick the Great of Prussia (1712-1786)

La Belle Époque

 * [[File:NatProg.png]] President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt (1858–1919)
 * [[File:3princ.png]] President Dr. Sun Yat-sen (1866-1925)

The Great Wars

 * [[File:Pahlavi.png]] Reza Shah the Great (1878–1944)
 * [[File:Authdem.png]] President-Regent Konstantin Päts (1874-1956)
 * [[File:Esosoc.png]] Gleb Ivanovich Bokii (1879–1937)
 * [[File:Kemal.png]] President Mustafa Kemal Atatürk (1881-1938)
 * [[File:Strato.png]] General Johannes Albrecht Blaskowitz (1883–1948)
 * [[File:YanXishan.png]] General Yan Xishan (1883-1960)
 * [[File:Ghandi.png]] Bapu Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948)
 * [[File:Strasser.png]] Otto Johann Maximilian Strasser (1897–1974)

Atom Age

 * [[File:Tito.png]] Josip Broz Tito (1892-1980)
 * [[File:Pahlavi.png]] King of Kings, Light of the Aryans Mohammad Reza Pahlavi (1919-1980)
 * [[File:Prout.png]] Baba Prabhat Ranjan "Shrii Shrii Ánandamúrti" Sarkar (1921-1990)
 * [[File:Gaddafi.png]] King of Kings, Brotherly leader and guide of the revolution of the Great Socialist People's Libyan Arab Jamahiriya Colonel Muammar Muhammad Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi (1942-2011)
 * [[File:Gorb.png]] President Mikhail Gorbachev (1931–2022)

Information Age

 * [[File:Sanders.png]] Senator Bernard "Bernie" Sanders (1941-)
 * [[File:Antrans.png]] Professor Yuval Noah Harari (1976-)
 * [[File:Vaush.png]] Ian "Vaush" Kochinsky (1994-)
 * [[File:Antcent.png]] Gregory "jReG" Guevara (1997-)
 * [[File:SocDist.png]] Austin Lind (?-)

=Beliefs=

Economics

 * [[File:Guildsoc.png]]
 * [[File:Marketsoc.png]]
 * [[File:Synd.png]]
 * [[File:SocDist.png]]Social Distributism
 * [[File:Prout.png]]
 * [[File:Soccorp.png]]
 * [[File:Tripartism.png]]Tripartism

Diplomacy
Internationalism (kinda)
 * [[File:World.png]]
 * [[File:Panhumanism.png]] Panhumanism
 * [[File:Globnat.png]]
 * [[File:Cosmocracy.png]] Cosmocracy
 * Perphistocracy
 * [[File:World_Federalism2.png]]
 * Galactic Federalism
 * Omni Federalism
 * [[File:Modnat.png]]
 * [[File:Pan-Nationalism.png]]


 * [[File:Euronaticon.png]]Pan-Europeanism
 * [[File:European_Federalism.png]]European Federalism
 * [[File:PanGerman.png]]Pan-Germanism (somewhat)
 * Pan-Nordism
 * [[File:PanAsian.png]]Pan-Asianism
 * Pan-Africanism
 * [[File:Native.png]]
 * [[File:Galactimp.png]]Galactic Imperialism
 * [[File:SpaceCol.png]] Space Colonialism

Gouvernment

 * [[File:Unimon.png]]
 * [[File:MonDist2.png]]
 * [[File:MonDist2.png]]
 * [[File:MonDist2.png]]

Technology
Transhumanism (to an extent)
 * [[File:Antrans.png]]Technoprimitivism

Culture

 * [[File:Progconf.png]]
 * [[File:Civlibert.png]]

Philosophy
Altruism Utilitarianism Confucianism Collectivism (partly) Individualism (partly) Skepticism Platoism (partly) Cartesianism (mostly) Thoreauism (partly)

Principles
"Solidarity, Subsidarity, Universality"

Socialism and Marxism
I am for Socialism because I am against Capitalism. Why am I against Capitalism? Well, a system built on infinite growth and profit cannot work in a limited world and profit alone shouldn´t be the driving factor of economics. Why do I reject Marxism? While I do recognize Marx as a great philosopher and economist I don´t identify myself as a Marxist because of several reasons: 1. Not even Marx himself called him a Marxist, he either called himself a Scientific Socialist or a Communist. 2. I don´t think a large scale stable moneyless and stateless society in the modern world is realistic or even desirable since a State can benefit the people through Welfare and Public works, as history has shown attempts at Anarchism/Communism usually got crushed in a few years, however there were some exeptions of such societies that had one thing in common, they were all protected by states in some way examples: Zapatista ("protected" by Mexico) Rojava (America/Syria) Freetown Christiania (Denmark) and many others. 3. Marx opposed religion and thought that families will become obsolete. He also said that the workers have no fatherland, since I consider myself a patriot (but not a nationalist) I don´t agree with that and also many workers associate themselves with their home country. 4. Inviteablity of monopolsation. While it´s true that it´s a natural tendency of Capitalism Marx seemed to see it as invitable and under Socialism the monopoly wouldn´t be abolished but simply controlled by the workers and any resistance against this monopolisation would be reactionary and he classified Petit Bourgeois Socialism as a part of reactionary Socialism in the Communist Manifesto (you could consider me as a Petit Bourgeois Socialist). That´s at least what I understood from the Communist Manifesto. 5. Violent Revolution. Marx seemed to see a violent revolution as invitable and maybe even desirable, but I think violence should always be the last resort. Many may argue that the ruling class will never volunarily give up their power but it actually often happened in history that bloodless revolutions against a elite or a autocrat succeded if it was popular enough. I somewhat agree with the quote of J. F. K. "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution invitable" though.

My Economics
My Economics are a mix of Social Distributism, Corporatism, Guild Socialism, Market Socialism, Georgism with elements of a Gift Economy.

Natural resources (like Air, Land, Oil, Water, Natural gas, Minerals), infrastructure and key industries should be owned by state-owned worker-controlled guilds. Large Companies should be broken up into smaller and local ones, also every company over 50 employees (including state owned ones) should have a works council which will be elected by the Workers and represent them. Regulations should be only done if they're neccesary to protect consumers, the environment, the workers ect. These Regulations as well as some Economic planning shall be made in a process I call Coordination, it consists of agreements between multiple companies or co-ops organized into economic sectors called Corporations (by the Corporatist definitions) or Guilds with the Gouvernment and Worker/Trade Unions. Also co-ops should be encouraged. For the Gift Economy part, local Communities should practise mutual aid.

[[File:Newdem.png]]Divide et impera in the Class war: A theory of limited Class Collaboration
As most Socialists already know the owning class, known as the Bourgeoisie often tries to divide the Working class, usually by factors like race, nationality, income, cultural views, political opinions and gender. What many however don't seem to realize is that the Bourgeoisie is internally divided just as much. Under the Capitalist market economy the Bourgeoisie constantly has to compete with other members of their own class, both domestic as international. And here's the thing: When the Working class starts a violent revolution on their own against the owning class in it's entirity it causes them to rally together against a common enemy in an effort to preserve their wealth, property and even life and causes them to abandon their usual rivalities, then they ally with members of the working class, militant groups, foreign powers and institutions that are still loyal to them and attempt to crush the Revolution by any means neccesary. By this approach the counterrrevolutionary forces will be likely to organize a much more stable defense and be much more likely to win in open combat. Since the Bourgeoisie is usually divided, if they didn't already monopolize and cartelize the economy as a whole, why not exploit this division in favour of the Working class? I advocate for an alliace not only between the working people but also with the Petite Bourgeoisie and some of the National Bourgeoisie against the top 1% and potential foreign invaders. Although allies should be picked carefully, they could try to exploit this collaboration in their favour and betray the workers when it suits them. Therefore this movement should be organized along three groups:
 * Worker Organisations (like Trade Unions, Tenant Unions, Communes, Cooperatives, Parties, Worker's Guilds etc.) in which the Working class is already in control. this should be the core and leading bloc of the movement. Division is to be avoided, remember, unity is strengh.
 * The Petit Bourgeoisie (small businesses, small landowners and family businesses) also known as the middle class makes up a significant part of the population in most European countries but exists in others as well. These members of Bourgeoisie often work at their own business instead of letting it be run by managers. They often have trouble competing against the High bourgeoisie. They can be good or bad allies but they're far more reliant on individual workers than the High Bourgeoisie can therefore can be influenced far more easily.
 * Allied members of the Bourgeoisie (those of the Bourgeoisie with big businesses but treat their workers relatively well). Alliances with them should be only made in the short term to achieve a certain economic goal, resist a foreign invader, or drive out foreign competition. However they are the most likely to betray the working class but they can be useful in the short term.

[[File:Nation.png]]Views on Nationalism
Nationalism is a double-edged sword, on one hand it can unite and liberate people, on the other it can oppress and divide them. Both on the basis of nationality. I view Culture and Language both as the defining factors of nationality in contrast to ethnicity, race and citizenship alone since Racial "science" is outdated, ethnicity is too exclusive to outsiders and can lead to disastrous events (for an example the Yugoslav wars), Citizenship is a good basis for nationality if it involves integrating into the native culture of the land, since an identity card alone doesn't automatically create a shared identity, which is neccesary for any kind of nation. I am also sceptical about the concept of souvereignity since it is often used by Autocratic leaders as an excuse to justify their human rights violations or by Anti-Environmentalists that want to harm nature. Seperatists are often hypocrites that want their nation to be independent but at the same time they usually deny independence to national identities within their land and also often ally with countries that supress certain independence movements.

[[File:World_Federalism2.png]]How to achieve World Federalism
I suggest World Federalism shall be done in a gradual approach, it begins with supporting Pan-Nationalist movements (Pan-Africanism, Pan-Europeanism, Pan-Asianism and Pan-Americanism for an example) that seek to unite with their neighbors, so that there are less and less states to the point where all countries unite, of course there would be some countries that likely wouldn't be willing to unite but they should be left alone for the most part. Also meanwhile a World Parliament should be established within the United Nations Organisation which would be granted more and more power over it. Also the Security Council should be abolished (a veto either for everyone or no one).

Cellular Democracy
My ideal government structure is a Cellular Democracy in which society would be organised bottom-up by a decentralized council/assembly structure to a certain point. The Councils will need the consent of their respective Parliament to implement a law.

Communal Council
The Communal assembly is responsible for adminstrating the Commune and they elect a delegate to the District council or the Village consort depending if you live in a urban or a rual area.

District Council/Village Consort
The district council will administer the district and elect a delegate for the Senate of the Muncipality. While the Village Consort will do the same in a village.

Municipal Senate
The Municipal Senate is responsible for administrating the City, the Senate will elect a delegate for the provincial/regional gouvernment.

Regional Gouvernment
The Regional Gouvernment consists of representatives of the Municipal Senates of the region and the regional parliament, it will take care of regional affairs and elect a delegate for the National gouvernment.

National Gouvernment
The National Gouvernment conists of regional representatives and the National parliament and is responsible for national issues and will elect a delegate for the General Assembly

General Assembly
The General Assembly serves as the upper Chamber of the World Gouvernment.

[[File:Parl.png]]Parliament
There should be a muncipal, regional, national and global parliament which would be elected by the people in a representative manner, with the Parliaments needing to approve decisions of the councils and the Parliament having the ability to veto decisions of the executive with a 2/3 majority.

Prime Minister/Chancellor
The Prime Minister, who is nominated by the Parliament and formally appointed by the Monarch acts as the head of Gouvernment and therefore also the Parliament. He is responsible for leading the day-to-day buissness in the Gouvernment.

[[File:Guildsoc.png]]Guild Chambers[[File:Soccorp.png]]
I propose adding Chambers, made up of professional associations called Guilds which are meant to advise the decisions of Councils and Parliament, to make sure these are based on expertise, merit and consensus of those affected. But generally the chambers are meant to self-gouvern their respective affairs. These Chambers would include:

[[File:Councom.png]]Imperative Mandate
Furthermore all representatives and delegates should be subject to an imperative mandate mandate which means they can be recalled by those that elected them.

[[File:Monarch.png]]Monarchy
I believe that a ruler who was raised from birth to rule and rules for lifetime or until abdication could be beneficial in certain limits, set by the constitution and serve as an unifing figure for the people.

[[File:Unimon.png]]The Supreme Emperor
Due to no historical dynasty having ruled all of earth I propose an elective Monarchy in which the candidate, who is nominated by the Perpetual Diet needs to be approved first by the majority of the General Assembly, and  by a majority of the Parliament (if they fail to agree on a candidate within a month they will get their pay cut)

The powers and responsibilites of the Monarch
The monarch’s core constitutional powers and duties should include:
 * Appointment of the prime minister and ministers
 * Calling and dissolution of parliament and calling new elections
 * Promulgation of laws
 * Lead coalition negotiations as a neutral arbiter
 * Hold weekly meetings with the government and/or prime minister
 * Formally appoint officers, high ranking civil servants and judges
 * Act as a general moderator of the state institutions and government
 * Be the nation’s chief diplomat and symbol abroad
 * Be a unifying and neutral symbol at home, a representation of the nation.

What if the Monarch is rubbish?
If a Monarch is not able or not willing to fullfill his duties his power can be limited up to the point of a purely ceremonial figure. If the Monarch truly acts in a tyrannical manner, the people should have the right to depose him and replace him with someone they see more fit to rule.

[[File:Arist.png]]The Perpetual Diet[[File:Cball-HRE.png]]
The Perpetual Diet is the state organ that elects the candidate for being the Monarch of the World Gouvernment, is tasked with solving potential dynastical disputes and otherwise only fullfills an advisory role It consists of: The Houses all will pay Tribute to the Supreme Emperor, which will be how he gets funded.
 * [[File:Unimon.png]] 100 Delegates of the Imperial Throne (appointed by the Supreme Emperor)
 * [[File:Monarch.png]] 200 Great Houses (Monarchs that rule a Nation)
 * [[File:Arist.png]] 400 Small Houses (Sub-national Monarchies and noble Houses)

[[File:Krit.png]]Judicative
The International Court of Justice would act as the World court also and be responsible for interpreting if laws are constitutional or not.

[[File:Mediastocracy_flair.png]]The Medial Consortium
The Media is often called "the Fourth Estate" and for good reason. It holds the important duty of providing information to the population about political affairs and holding the gouvernment accountable, which is why I see it as irresponsible to leave that duty to private Companies that do it for profit, which is why a Consortium of preferably Independent news outlets should be established as the offical fourth pillar of the state and be included in the system of checks and balances.

Ministry of Examination
administers examinations for civil servants and contract personnel

Ministry of Civil Service
oversees the pay, promotion, and retirement of civil servants

Civil Service Protection Comission
is responsible for protecting the rights of civil servants

Civil Service Training Comission
is responsible for training civil servants

Housing
JUST BUILD MORE HOUSES DAMNIT!

Land Tax
There should be a progressive tithe tax on land (minimum 0.1%, maximum 48%). The tax incomes will be used to fund local gouvernments, housing and infrastructure construction, as well as certain welfare programms.

Wealth Tax
There should be wealth tax of an annual 1% of total wealth of persons that have more than 1 million Euros, 2% on those with more than 10 million, 5% on those with more than a hundred million, 10% on those with more than a billion and a wealth cap on 10 billion, unless that wealth can be justified to society. This money would be used to fund an Universal Basic Income.

Autarky
Ideally every single town should not only be self-gouverning but also self-sufficent so they don't have to be dependent on others and can survive crisises much more easy.

Guns
If you want to own a gun you should be able to earn it by military service (unless it's a gun specifically meant for hunting or a certain sport for which there would be specialized trainings and licences.). Other than that similar regulations on guns as in Switzerland should be implemented.

Philosophy
WIP

Personality
Usually a calm and friendly guy, although sometimes he can provoke others or get triggered because of things he doesn't likes. He's a devout Pagan but doesn't tries to enforce his religion on others but gets very mad when others want to force their religion on him (which is why you often see him ranting about Emperor Theodosius). He often calls Fascists bundles of sticks. And is a secret Estonian Chauvinist.

=Relations=

Friends

 * [[File:SocDist.png]]Social Distributism - Based Economics!
 * [[File:Neotribe.png]]Neotribalism - I agree with you that Tribal communities are generally better than mass society, but I am not the biggest fan of Neo-modernism
 * [[File:Space.png]]Galacticism - I like your spirit.
 * [[File:Panhumanism.png]] Panhumanism - Humanity f*ck yeah!
 * [[File:Tau'vaicon.png]] Tau'va - FOR THE GREATER GOOD!
 * [[File:Col.png]] Collectivism - He gets it. You scare me sometimes...
 * [[File:CultComm.png]] Cult Communalism - W E A R E T H E P U R E O N E S
 * [[File:Zelensky.png]] Zelenskyism - Слава Україні! Stop trying to get NATO to join the war
 * [[File:Icon6.png]] Monarcho-Technocracy - Not bad, not bad...
 * [[File:Anti-antirevision.png]] Anti-Anti-Revisionism - Uphold Revisionism! Down with the Dogmatism that holds humanity in shackles!
 * [[File:ClassicalSocDem.png]] Classical Social Democracy - Social Democrats used to be way more based back in the day.
 * [[File:Tunic.png]] Tunicism - I like what I see there...
 * [[File:Huism.png]] Huism - If only you succeded...
 * [[File:Gorb.png]] Gorbachevism - Rest in peace Mikhail Gorbachev... for we are awake.
 * [[File:Fusion_Feminism.png]] Fusion Feminism - Literally my views on Feminism!
 * [[File:Fed.png]] - FEDERALISM IS LOVE, FEDERALISM IS LIFE!
 * [[File:Demcon.png]] - Biji Rojava! I heard you did some war crimes though
 * [[File:World_Federalism2.png]] - United we stand, divided we fall!
 * [[File:Globnat.png]] - This is what I call true International Solidarity!
 * [[File:Humanismpix.png]] - HUMAN PRIDE WORLDWIDE!
 * [[File:Prout.png]] - You're really close to my ideas!
 * [[File:Social_corpratism.png]] - Konzertierte Aktion goes brrrr.
 * [[File:Guildsoc.png]] - Bring back the Guilds! Stop hating on worker's Councils and Unions though
 * [[File:Marketsoc.png]] - I love Co-ops! Also a market economy can be quite efficent.
 * [[File:Synd.png]] - Soooolidarity forever, for the Union makes us strong!
 * [[File:GeoSynd.png]] - Tenant Unions are BASED! But why do you hate Monarchism so much?
 * [[File:Georgist.png]] - Tax Land! But Capitalism is Cringe... you're one of the most tolerable Capitalists though. But are you really sure about unrestricted trade? Why do I even call myself a Georgist?
 * [[File:Orlib.png]] - You might be a Neoliberal but German Neoliberalism is best Neoliberalism!
 * [[File:Socliber.png]] - You may be Capitalist, but you're pretty based most of the time.
 * [[File:Monarch.png]] - Wir wolln' unsren alten Kaiser Wilhelm wiederham, wir wollen unsren alten Kaiser Wilhelm wiederham, aber den mit dem Bart, mit dem langen Bart.
 * [[File:Conmon.png]] - A proper mixed form of Gouvernment.
 * [[File:Monsoc.png]] - Workers of the World, embrace Monarchy!
 * [[File:Intercult.png]] - Integrating Immigrants into our culture is BASED! But we should put effort into preserving cultures that are native to our lands though.
 * [[File:Native.png]] - Native Rights are Human Rights!
 * [[File:Modnat.png]] - 'SCHLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND!!!
 * [[File:Populare.png]] - Land to the poor and civilisation to barbarians !
 * [[File:Protect.png]] - Buy local, becuz ya gotta P R O T E C C but some trade wouldn't hurt, don't you think?
 * [[File:Bernst.png]] - I think you're my favorite Marxist and I agree with you on a lot, the Communist Party of Japan seems to be pretty based too! I also share Bernstein's opinion on Imperialism.
 * [[File:Afrsoc.png]] - It's a shame how many of you ended up.
 * [[File:Agsoc.png]] - Farmers rise up! The peasantry is just as important for a country as the industrial workers.
 * [[File:Minsocf.png]] - Pretty good.
 * [[File:Progress.png]] - You're pretty chill most of the time, just stay away from [[File:SJW.png]][[File:Twittard.png]][[File:Ultraprogressivism.png]][[File:Mao.png]][[File:Statlib.png]][[File:Pinkcap.png]][[File:Jacobin.png]]these people
 * [[File:Progconf.png]] - Supporting Traditions and Minority rights is GIGABASED!

Frenemies

 * [[File:Rural.png]] Ruralism - I don't mind you but Cities are important, y'know?
 * [[File:Pahlavi.png]] Pahlavism - While I see you as a net positive you still were too Autocratic and did you really have to support Pakistan back then in 1971? Anyways you're still way more preferable to the current Reactionary Republic and I hope Reza Pahlavi will reclaim his throne someday, Javid Shah!
 * [[File:Newdem.png]] New Democracy - One of Mao's less shit ideas. I like the idea of the bloc of the four classes but this still has too much emphasis on party rule for me.
 * [[File:Cermon.png]] - Maybe you should idk. do something? However if the Monarch is too incompetent it might be best to adopt this system.
 * [[File:World.png]] - Global problems need global solutions! However Economic Globalization is mostly cringe.
 * [[File:Zio.png]] - My secret master. You managed to establish a sucessful and long lasting Democracy in the middle east, congrats on that. But maybe you need to put more effort into making peace with the Palestinians. Also I prefer the Isratin solution, although it's pretty unlikely.
 * [[File:Technocracy.png]] - Giving experts a say in gouvernance seems like a great idea, however you don't realise that every gouvernment requires support from its people to exist in the long term and you also don't realize that Populism is a good strategy to gain political power. And letting Unions and vocational Guilds gouvern themselves pretty much ensures decisions are in the hand of experts. R-right?
 * [[File:Tribal.png]] - Long live the Tribe, long live the Tribe elder and praise Sun God! On the other hand... Look I respect most of your Traditions but you should learn to use Technology, embrace the State and... Wait, what are you doing?! Don't EAT MEEEEE...
 * [[File:PagTheo.png]] - Look, I get that you want to protect your traditional way of life but Involving religious institutions in gouvernance will make them attractive for Corruption and Manipulation, your tribal variant is a bit more based however, also stop sacrificing Humans, the Gods don't need us to feed them.
 * [[File:Chine.png]] - The Mandate of Heaven is a very interesting institution, it forged China into an united superpower, but also gave the people the ability to hold their rulers accountable for their mistakes at the cost of years of war and millions of deaths . Get rid of that whole Absolutism thingy though.
 * [[File:Statesoc.png]] - Sometimes it can be efficent, but often not. Which is why I prefer Cooperatives and Guilds for the means of production.
 * [[File:Blacknat.png]] - BLACK LIVES MATTER! but Black Supremacy and Black Seperatism are cringe.
 * [[File:Dengf.png]] - As much as I criticize and complain about you, I can't deny that you have done a good job reversing Maos disastrous policies, lifting people out of poverty, expanding infrastructure and turning China into a great Power again. But there is a dream that will never die, always remember that.
 * [[File:Hindutva.png]] - Glory to India, fuck P*kistan Uhhhh, I mean shoo evil Fascist, shoo! It's not like I like you or anything baka
 * [[File:Soul.png]] - Well, I can't say that I hate you or don't understand you and I like your Esoteric variant but you're very, well let's say far fetched and you... you really need to rethink your Drug consumption.
 * [[File:Metaxi.png]] - You're a quasi-Fascist and a Totalitarian, but I have to admit banning your own party along with all others is a kinda chad move. And I love the way how you protected your homeland against the [[File:Fash.png]]Invaders. Also your social programms were quite nice too.
 * [[File:Gaddafi.png]] - Fellow convoluted Democracy enjoyer. You're right about the problems of class rule and party rule. But I don't think Israel killed JFK...
 * [[File:Hoxha.png]] - The least bad Anti-Revisionist, make out of that what you will.
 * [[File:Khrusch.png]] - Not revisionist enough!

Enemies
'ate Fiat 'ate Bailouts 'ate Trusts 'ate ☘️☘️☘️Usury☘️☘️☘️ 'ate Intellectual property 'ate ☘️☘️☘️Big Corp☘️☘️☘️ 'ate Monopolies unless the state does it 'ate ☘️☘️☘️Multinationals☘️☘️☘️ (not racist just don't like 'em) 'ate Pinkertons luv Socialism luv Subsidarity luv Trust Busting luv Protectionism luv Small Business simple 'as
 * [[File:UrbanAccelicon.png]] Urban Accelerationism - Horrible Urbanites.
 * Dahmerism - WHAT. THE. FISH. IS. THIS. DEGENERACY?
 * [[File:Sixlib.png]] Sexual Liberationism - You want to normalize ALL Sexual fetishes? Oh, not on my watch...
 * Somethingism.png Somethingism - Your struggle will be in vain.
 * [[File:IMESFA-icon.png]] IMESFA - This is the future those bundles of sticks want.
 * [[File:Horror_theo.png]] Horror Theocracy - YOU SHALL PERISH! My worst enemy.
 * [[File:Germanophobe.png]] Germanophobia - Sprich Deutsch, du Hurensohn.
 * [[File:Hyperborea.png]] Hyperborea - No, I won't become your slave also Finno-Ugric people are the true Hyperboreans and not some silly Russians.
 * [[File:White_Guilt.png]] White Guilt - You're just making a clown out of yourself.
 * Dark Pantheonism - Shut up your goofy LARPer ass.
 * [[File:Cball-Ireland.png]] IRA - The Army of [[File:Hib.png]][[File:Hib.png]] and a Nazi collaborator!
 * [[File:Ultlibicon.png]] Ultra-Liberalism - You are an enemy of mine.
 * [[File:Golden_Dawn.png]] Golden Dawnism - Remember what the Nazis did to your people!
 * [[File:Ingsocf.png]] - Literally 1984
 * [[File:Fash.png]] - You might've been better than the Nazis and the Stalinists but you still were a totalitarian dictatorship that comitted many atrocities in Africa and the Balkans. And you opressed Germans in South Tyrol!
 * [[File:Esofash.png]] - You ruin the reputation of our ancestors ancient religions!
 * [[File:Nazi.png]] - You ruined my country. At least you improved animal welfare
 * [[File:Stalin.png]] - You may have beaten the guy above and industrialized the Soviet Union further but for your atrocities you still deserved to die in piss. Also Destalinisation was BASED. And why did you have to kill Gleb Bokii???
 * [[File:ML.png]] - Almost the same as above. Some of you might've been kinda based but I won't forget what you did to my family...
 * [[File:Mao.png]] - The literal definition of "the road to hell is paved with good intentions"
 * [[File:Polpot.png]] - We're reaching levels of Tyranny that shouldn't even be possible! You're even worse than IngSoc! yet you greatly reduced carbon emissions and Urbanites are kinda cringe [[File:Troll.png]]
 * [[File:Unitary.png]] - Absolute sc*m! hUrR dUrR i nEeD tO oPrEsS mInOrItIeS fOr "eFfIcIeNcY"
 * [[File:Parti.png]] - A system that either tries to divide or control the people, it's no coincidence that the worst tyrannies that are known to Earth used this system.
 * [[File:Republicanismpix.png]] - You don't want equality, you just want power for yourself!
 * [[File:Jacobin.png]] - You're literaly the same guy as above! DISGUSTING GENOCIDAL TOTALITARIAN DEGENERATE TERRORISTS THAT RUINED FRANCE EVEN MORE THAN IT ALREADY WAS THE DAY ON WHICH ROBBESPIERRE SUFFERED THE SAME FATE HE PUT THOUSANDS OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS UNDER SHOULD BE CELEBRATED!
 * [[File:Banana_Republicanism.png]] - Weak and divided Recucklics Republics being controlled and exploited by large private Corporations and foreign powers? Why am I not suprised...
 * [[File:Pinochet.png]] - Aren't you literaly the guy above?
 * [[File:Neolib.png]] - Thanks for the gender neutral toilets! Macron is somewhat based though...
 * [[File:Auto.png]] - No man rules alone...
 * [[File:Abmon.png]] - Same as above. Some Absolutists were based though.
 * [[File:Sep.png]] - Hypocritical Chauvinist traitor, REEEEEEEEE!!! I have sympathies to some of you though
 * [[File:Antijap.png]] - This is not very Kawaii.
 * [[File:Showa-kanmuri.png]] - I mean... the idea of a Pan-Asian Monarchy that provides a counter balance to the Christian west sounds based BUT WHY THE FISH DID YOU HAVE TO KILL SO MANY PEOPLE?
 * [[File:Christy.png]] - OH YOU ARE THE WORST IHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUSIHATEEMPERORTHEODOSIUS Remove REMOVE REMOVE!!!
 * [[File:Cfash.png]] - You're literaly the guy above. Also stop LARPing as a goth! INTO THE CUCK PIT WITH YOU!
 * [[File:Crusadism.png]] - King Lembitu did nothing wrong...
 * [[File:Avar.png]] - Your Chaotic Crapitalist Tyranny shall not last long.
 * [[File:Ancapf.png]] - Negative Rights without positive rights is just tyranny by another name.
 * [[File:Agorismf.png]] - "Voting is violence". Ok, f*ck domestic violence, we're going global.
 * [[File:Corp.png]] -
 * [[File:Anti-Humanism.png]] - Face the wall, M*santhrope!
 * [[File:Authoritarian_Conservatism.png]] [[File:Authcon.png]] - Unfortunally most of you have proven to be shitty people. But sending people to Horny jail is based.
 * [[File:Jihad.png]] - ISIS? More like waswas.

Friends

 * - You honestly inspired me quite a bit. Your ideology is well thought out and you're really friendly too!
 * [[file:Tomassciism-icon.png]] Tomassciism - Ayyy, fellow Pagan leftie! We actually have lot in common and you even somewhat influenced me a few years ago, when I first visited the Anarchy Wiki.
 * Saoirseism - Another one! I like you (but I am sceptical about Theocracy).
 * Addycakesball Thought - Somehow this seems like a strawman of my Ideology... But it seems we agree on a lot of things. But why do you hate Penguins? And why are you Absolutist?
 * Addycakesball Thought: Reddit was brainwashing me into hating them...
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - lul wut XD. Anyways could you add me to your relations?
 * Addycakesball Thought: Yes, plus I don't hate penguins anymore. XD
 * - Overall based Economics, Anarchism is meh and hating on Orwell for snitching on Stalinists is cringe what do you mean he also put Civil rights activists and Homosexuals on his list? . But you're generally a good person, so you end up here.
 * [[File:OwfBall.png]] Owfism - We agree on almost everything.
 * - Based Guild Socialism and Progressive Conservatism, but I think you hate Reformists too much.
 * [[File:Glencoe.png]] Glencoe - I agree with many of your ideas but I am not interested in abolishing inheiritance. And invading Israel is a really stupid idea.
 * - He's a guy who I get along well and we share some ideas.
 * [[File:Silasicon.png]] Sílas Carrasco Thought - Mmmm, not bad. I agree with a lot of your ideas but you're a tad too Fundamentalist to me.
 * Profectism - Interesting.
 * [[File:BasedMan.png]] BasedManism - Not a fan of Egoism but I respect your Esotericism and your vast knowledge on Philosophy.
 * [[File:CoMiIcon.png]] Council Minarchism - I do wonder how you can be a Capitalist and a Socialist at the same time.
 * [[File:Cflski.png]] Celfloskyism - Very based.
 * [[File:Rocksismicon.png]] Rocksism - Not bad.
 * [[File:O'Langism.png]]JacksonTheBear - I don't mind you.

Frenemies

 * Ronwelltarianism_icon.png Ronwelltarianism - I disagree with some of your ideas (Anti-Zionism, children at pride etc.) but I can see that you're a true American Patriot.
 * [[file:Syntridem2.png]] Applethesky2021 - While there's not too much bad stuff in your Ideology you're still a bit too Authoritarian to me and you're a staunch Nationalist also Biji Rojava, Biji Kurdistan! Ey, Reqîp! Her mawe qewmî kurdziman, naysikênê danerî topî zeman.
 * [[File:Ethwelball.png]] Ethnic Welfarism - A lot of your ideas are nice but Ethnostates are cringe.
 * - Some ideas of yours are quite well, but you're still to Capitalist for me and too Reactionary.
 * - You might be a fellow Technoprimitivist and Socialist but being against Civilisation as a whole is cringe.
 * - Egh, I don't exactly know what to think of you but you seem somewhat cringe unfortunally.
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] Rejuvenative Hamburg thought - The Seperatism is pretty much the worst part of your ideology imo. Don't you realize that unity is a good thing, which creates peace and prosperity? But your economics and cultural takes are overall based.
 * [[File:NNGM.png]] New North German Model - I guess your new Ideology is somewhat of an improvement BUT SEPERATISM IS STILL A DISEASE THAT MUST BE FOUGHT! Also the influcence of that Neo-Nazi Femboy is sus.
 * I dislike Egoism and Ultraprogressivism, but you're a fellow Vaush enjoyer.
 * [[File:Neo-ArctoismIcon.png]] Neo-Arctoism - Your Ideology is overall a mixed bag in my eyes and I think you were better when you still were a leftist. But you still have some based ideas.
 * [[File:ProtTheo.png]] reginald thought - Kind of stupid, but you seem to have well intentions.
 * [[File:HatIdea.png]] Patrick thought - Based Distributism and Monarchism, but Aristocracy? Not so sure about that. I'd like you to explain how the hell, hell is a democracy. And using the Anti-Communist version of "Aj Karmela" as your song is also quite a gamer moment [[File:Troll.png]]
 * - I appreciate your tolerance of my Monarchism but I won't give up on the unity of the Human people!
 * [[File:SouthIntegral.png]] Southern Integralism - Decent Economics, but he's a Reactionary Papist and a [[File:Hib.png]]Paddy puppet.
 * [[File:Calcicon.png]] Calculustism - Freedom is important and you're a fellow Polytheist, but Technology is not always good (especially not if we loose what makes us human).
 * [[File:Calcicon.png]] - Losing our humanity is a good thing. So many people have died in the name of humanity or some sub-category of it. And for what? Us to do the same again? To kill another? I see "Humanity" as flawed. If we become more than human, we will lose the primal urges that are what make us violent and cruel. We will become not just more than human, but better than human.
 * [[File:Panth.png]] - You claim the solution to humans being treated inhumanely is to make them not human anymore? All the freedoms humans have have their root in their freedom to be a human and by extension to be treated as such. People have died for humanity so that their children might live another day. Contrary to Marqui de Sade I reject the idea that we resort to cruelty and violence solely because its "our nature", it's true that there were times where violence was the norm but today most humans live in peace. As Mahatma Gandhi said: "You must not lose faith in humanity. Humanity is an ocean; if a few drops of the ocean are dirty, the ocean does not become dirty."
 * [[File:Stilluserricon.png]] Stilluserr's Thought - I remember also being a supporter of Technocracy like you... putting all political power into the hands of an Aristocracy of experts will not magically fix all problems. Also, what would stop the Technocratic council from abolishing the term limits you are envisioning? Still mostly based.

Enemies
I was only 9 years old. I loved Vaush so much. I had all the merchandise and VODs. I’d pray to Vaush every night before I go to bed, thanking for the life I've been given. “Vaush is love”, I would say, “Vaush is life”. My dad hears me and calls me a liberal. I knew he was just jealous for my devotion to Vaush. I called him a tankie. He slaps me and sends me to go to sleep. I'm crying now and my face hurts. I lay in bed and it's really cold. A warmth is moving towards me. I feel something touch me. it's Vaush! I'm so happy. He whispers in my ear, “Marx was a liberal.” He grabs me with his powerful streamer hands and puts me on my back. I mentally prepare for his interrogation. He asks me, “Are you aware…of Alden's number” The question hurts so much, but I answer it for Vaush. I answer, “I believe so.” he roars a mighty roar, as he screams the N-word. My dad walks in. Vaush looks him straight in the eye, and says, “It's all theory now”. Vaush fucks my dad. Vaush leaves through my window. Vaush is love. Vaush is life.
 * [[File:Vamp.png]] Braun Spencer Thought - A banana Republican.
 * - Despite a few based views you're still a Reactionary Fascist.
 * [[File:CasagonThoughtIcon.png]] Casagon Thought - It was a good decision of you to abandon Feudalism. But you remain a fascist enemy of my faith and homeland nontheless. Keep coping [[File:Troll.png]]
 * [[File:Pixil-frame-0(16).png]] Reactionary-Cheesenism - An Islamic Unitarist Fascist? Oh no...
 * [[File:Nastyism_Icon.png]] Nastyism - You have some based opinions but I just realized you're a literal Nazi and as a German I can't tolerate such shit.
 * [[File:Cantonjack.png]] Cantonese Montagnardism [[File:Cantonsam.png]] - Totalitarian freak! Ugh, I am not someone who usually advocates for violence but you make me think that the Thermidorians didn't go far enough...
 * Cantonese Montagnardism: Lmao cope and seethe monarkiddie, also I may be turning egoist and I'm not too deeply into the guillotine stuff lol. think of it as a Gorbachev life-stage
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - You'll fall victim to the Great Replacement as well? WHEN DOES THE TERROR END?
 * Implianium - Tyrannical Degeneracy. You're mad!
 * [[File:pixil-frame-0(27).png]] New Model Of Cheesenism - You claim to support Pan-Asianism yet you also support Sinophobia, curious.
 * [[File:Neokira2.png]] Neo-Kiraism - I am not crazy! I know he stole those coconuts. I knew it was Fat Ian. Coercion after the plane crashed. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. He covered his tracks, he got SakeTanuki to donate to him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This Vaushite? He's done worse. That Tactical N word! Are you telling me that a man just happens to use the hard r like that? No! He orchestrated it! IrishLaddie! He had sex with a horse! And I saved him! And I shouldn't have. I took him into my own debate panel! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was 9, always the same! Couldn't stop being homophobic to that one annoying kid! But not our Vaush! Couldn't be precious Vaush! Stealing them coconuts blind! And HE gets to be a leftist? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! Him? You think the... Coconut Man? What a joke. The CIA has been paying me for years -- years. But you know what? I would've said it hard R for free, because I hate every last one of you Twitter Leftist sacks of shit. I told JK Rowling to shut up. And I would do it again. And I'm glad Keffals ratio'd her. She's a soulless Terf. And I wish I told Biden about this malarkey. And you know what else, Trump? I put you out of that office. Oh, yeah. Your Georgia votes? I rigged the entire election. You were dead and buried, and I had to watch this Capitol Riot try to bring you back. So when you are sitting in your shitty golfing course, and you're suckin' down on my desert island coconuts night after night for the rest of your life, you think of IrishLaddie, you orange fuck!
 * [[File:Atronism-icon.png]] Atronism - Reject Ideological Orthodoxy, embrace Revisionism. Also stop supporting that [[File:Hamburger.png]]traitor to the German people or I'll revive the [[File:4thReichEU.png]]Hallstein doctrine.
 * [[File:Nazcapf.png]] Lancebarnett - Und weil der Mensch ein Mensch ist, drum hat er Stiefel im Gesicht nicht gern!
 * [[File:Lanceism.png]] Lanceism- Down with Fascism! Up with the people!
 * [[File:Aldath.png]] Aldathism - Ugh, a Neo-Nazi and North Korea simp. How exactly do you plan to create that big ass Germanic Empire without expansive wars and why wouldn't England be part of it? Anyways, if other people with similar ideas would come to power in Germany ever again I wouldn't be suprised if you'd be one of the first to be purged.
 * [[File:BERNHEism.png]] BERNHEism - There cannot be freedom without justice, or justice without freedom.
 * [[File:NatPolPotSmallerEye.png]] National Pol Potism - Aj Karmela!
 * Normal Supremacism - Not everythimg that differs from the norm is bad m'kay?
 * [[File:Hydra.png]] Hydra'ism - You may be better than most Nazis since you seem to value freedom at least somewhat and you appear to wish to live in virtue. However, you hold so many values I cannot approve (Racism is a big no no for me) of and I find it ironic how you use the term National Socialism for your believes, yet you also consider yourself an Anti-Socialist. You're almost an extreme right-wing variant of me, in a way.

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 * [[File:Rocksismicon.png]] Rocksism - Add me please?
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Okay.
 * Implianium - Add me
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Add me back.

New Model Of Cheesenism - add me
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Ok.

Casagonism - Add me, i added you in my relations. Nastyism-I added you now can you add me? - Add me? - Add me.
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - I added you. To answer your question, I am a Socialist because I seek to end Capitalist exploitation and I support worker's rights, I also have elements of other alternative Economic systems like Corporatism and Distributism in my Ideology since I tolerate small buisnesses, family buisnesses and in some cases the economy must be coordinated to achieve a certain goal. As for Liberalism, I usually don't call myself one but I also don't mind beign called one, I usually associate the term Liberalism with freedoms for the averange citizens and civil rights (which I think is good) while others rather think of it as Capitalist (which I think is bad)
 * [[file:Syntridem2.png]] Applethesky2021 - Add me?
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - I did it, now add me back.
 * [[file:Tomassciism-icon.png]] Tomassciism - Curious about your opinion on me. I already added you so no worries about that.
 * [[File:Pixil-frame-0(16).png]] Reactionary-Cheesenism- add me
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Oops, I forgot about you, but now I added you. Can you add me back?
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - I did.
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Finished.
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Alright, but please add me back afterwards.
 * [[File:Touseyism ball.png]]Neo-Touseyism Add me ?
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Yes.
 * [[File:OwfBall.png]] Owfism - I added you, add me back?
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Sure.
 * Ronwelltarianism_icon.png Ronwelltarianism - I added you. Can you add me back?
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Just did it.
 * [[File:SCT.png]]Sílas Carrasco - Can you add me pls?
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Sure.
 * - Could you add me to your self-insert relations?
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Okay, but add me back later on.
 * - Add me? Also are you a vaushite still?
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Honestly I do have some disagreements with Vaush and I call myself a Vaushite mainly to piss Tankies off. But I'll add you.

- pls add me Glencoe- add me
 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - ok, but add me back.
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Add me back, pls.
 * - Add me?
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - K.
 * [[File:BasedMan.png]]BasedManism - add me?
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - I added you.
 * [[File:Silasicon.png]] Sílas Carrasco Thought - My ideas changed, can you update your relationships?
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Ok (:
 * [[File:BasedMan.png]]BasedManism - i added more about you on my relations (as much as i could add, as i dont really get politics all that much), sorry for not doing it earlier, i was busy at the time so i just speedran the relations thing, sorry if i offended you or anything
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Don't worry. Everything is fine.
 * [[File:Neokira2.png]] Neo-Kiraism - add me
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Ok.
 * [[File:pixil-frame-0(27).png]] New Model Of Cheesenism- wait i just realized it why i am sinophobia? do you understand what happend in indonesia do you know since suharto fell this chinese people is steal the indonesia people money and a very big corruptor who can escaped justice and bribe the useless corupt indonesia *national* police.in the end i am a islamic relegious man i dont hate all chinese i like islamic sino and permanent living chinese. also is normal in indonesia culture to hated chinese because they see as corrupt bastard and foreigner.just search 1998 crisis and masa bersiap in google.my father is like me have same view on chinese people he also have help some indochinese and islamic sino on crisis of 1998 i just want to kick all foreign chinese is sad that my goverment import upon thousand of chinese worker went indonesia have largest population is southeast asia and fourth in the world.i want united all malaya speaking nation and southeast to fight the real enemy of asia the western world
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Why don't just punish those that commit crimes and exploit the people instead of all Chinese people.
 * [[File:pixil-frame-0(27).png]] New Model Of Cheesenism - yes that i will do but i dont want to kick all chinese like i said above permanent living chinese,islamist chinese and indo-chinese will not get any harm they still hve right.i want only to kick all Chinese worker immigrant.
 * [[File:Atronism-icon.png]] Atronism - Hullo, coulda add me?
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Sure, but make sure to add me back.
 * [[File:O'Langism.png]]JacksonTheBear - Add me? Also, sorry for taking so long to add you
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Hmph, took you long enough.

CasagonThought - Add me pls (Use google trad to translate french)
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Didn't I already add you?+Your page doesn't exist anymore.
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Ah, now I added you.
 * [[File:Nazcapf.png]] Lancebarnett - add me
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Add me back.
 * [[File:HatIdea.png]] A dude on this place - Can you add me? I have added you.
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Where's your page?
 * [[File:HatIdea.png]] A dude on this place - https://polcompballanarchy.miraheze.org/wiki/Patrick_thought
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Thanks.
 * [[File:HatIdea.png]] A dude on this place - Do you have a discord account because it will be easier to answer your question that way?
 * [[File:HatIdea.png]] A dude on this place - You could probably say that Anarchy, not Democracy, is the closest match to Hell, but you could always argue that Anarchy is the most constant form of Democracy. That though would always depend on what you mean by Democracy as Democracy can mean many different things to different people. But here St. John is referring to Democratic presuppositions. Or at least that is how I interpret the quote. Does that make sense or do we need to talk in discord?
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - I don't have Discord. Anyways Democracy, as I understand it means the rule of the people (what exactly is considered "the people" changed over time) either directly or indirectly.


 * [[File:ProtTheo.png]] reginald thought - add me
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - A'ight.


 * - Add me [[File:Troll.png]]
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Okay [[File:Troll.png]]

The berlin wall is not a wall of shame, it's a wall of honor.
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Says who?

- Hey man, I have added you at long last.
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Thank you! But if I may ask, what took you so long?
 * - Sorry, I had to study so I couldn't really add you. That and re-organizing my page during that time.
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Ah, that's reasonable, no need to apologize for that.

Normal_SupremacismCan you add me?
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Yes, pls add me back.

Stilluserr's Thought - Can you add me
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Ok, add me back.

Calculustism - Add?
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - Ok, add me back.

Hydra'ism - Please add me Pantheon :).
 * [[File:Panth.png]] Pantheonism - As you wish, Hydra. But add me back, if that's no problem.