Davilandism

Davilandism is the ideology of the user Davilanda13. It's environmentalist, capitalist, reactionary, anarchist and spanish Chauvinist.

[[File:Cap.png]] Economy [[File:Lfree.png]]
Although he likes liberty, he believes a totally free market is the best solution of all problems of state


 * [[File:Sec.png]] Taxes: Taxation is theft, and you know its true
 * [[File:Welf.png]] Welfare: Markets can do better the functions of welfare
 * [[File:Corp.png]] Intellectual property: ideas aren't property
 * [[File:Edu.png]] Education: Markets
 * [[File:Road.png]] Roads: Markets
 * [[File:PolState.png]] Security: Markets
 * [[File:Sec.png]] All things that state do: M A R K E T S

[[File:Feud.png]][[File:Property.png]] Property and Business [[File:EconAn.png]]
He supports landlods and capitalists, he want to live in a good futuristic fief with workers, farmers and capitalists, and full of amongus, but without forget the fundamental staments and the traditions (or without being post modernists
 * Fiefs: Private Law Systems, compatible with an idea of anarchism like "stateless society", and also compatibles with that natural law.
 * Property: The property Is a fundamental right that we must protect againts positive liberties and statism.
 * All things enceptly fundamental staments of our society (family, tradition, church, liberty and life): Private
 * Bussiness: The bussiness would be absolutely free, because the bussiness makes better products and a better markets

[[File:Austrobert.png]]Economic Thought[[File:Austrobert.png]]
Yes, he is austrolibertarian, he beliefs in methodlogical individualism, marginalism, the ABCT, the methodological subjetivism, the spontaneous order, etc. He hates keynesian economics, neo classical economics and socialist and marxist economics.

[[File:Awaj.png]] Civical Beliefs [[File:Feud.png]]
He is anarchist, he believes that anarchism is when no state and he tinks that fiefs are compatible with an anarchist society, also, he thinks that government vigilance is just a justification of the state for give himself more power. So, he Is a state hater, the ancoms are statists, the minarchists and classical liberals are socialist, and in other words, the state Is gae.

[[File:Hoppe.png]]Landlords and Original appropiation[[File:Ancapf.png]]
The landlords are landlords for original appropiation, that means that the landlord was the first person who owns the local land, and that's makes landlords legitimate owners of the land. The landlord can open or close their borders, and he can allow only the persons with similar culture, religion, language or even race to pass.

[[File:Ultranat.png]] Nation [[File:Modnat.png]]
He is Spanish Chauvinist, and he is a  hispanist, he thinks that the hispanic countries should accept that they have almost the same culture, and they should eliminated the state, the reason of the anglicanization of the hispanic countries.

[[File:Isolationist.png]] Isolation [[File:Antiimp.png]]
He thinks that countries shouldn't intervene in external affairs like civil wars, normal wars, goverment overthrows, etc, that's because they have nothing to do with external affairs.

[[File:React.png]] Society [[File:Trad.png]]
He supports the return to pre elightenment society (with chivalric code and some medieval values). In LGBT matters, he is againt gay marriage and LGBT pride, because marriage is only between a man and a woman (the Scripture says:"That is why a man leaves his father and mother and clings to his wife, and the two of them become one body." Genesis 2:24). As well, he thinks non-binary people are not valid (Lol, you cannot be of another gender other than a man and a woman),the same with trans people (The genders doesn't care about your feelings, cry about it), and basically only straight cis people are valid (Because heterosexuality and cigerderism is the natural and rational way of life). In national culture, our cultural values should be those of the high middle ages. The culture of the church and the family are the only way to end the state, which Is the source of idolatry and degeneracy.

[[File:Intercult.png]]Exclutionism and etnopluralism [[File:Ethplur.png]]
WIP

[[File:Christy.png]] Bodily Autonomy [[File:Conserv.png]]
He is in favour with the right of choosing your own sexuality (but when you're mature enough, and the most), modifying your body (the same as above) and abortion, only when the life of the mother is in danger. This is because he thinks the baby's life is very important and we can't finish him, enceptly when the two lives are in danger and the O N L Y solution is the abortion.


 * Homosexuality: it's contra natura, but we must respect homosexuals, but they should be chaste
 * Abortion: abortion Is a murder
 * Death penalty: just for heretics and murders.
 * Euthanasia: NO, the catholic church Is againts euthanasia.

[[File:Catheo.png]]Religion[[File:Crusadism.png]]
Davilanda Is obviusly a catholic, he thinks that the best society Is a catholic religious society, because the preservation of the traditional values Is one of the most important things un a prosperous society.
 * The duty of the catholic church with fief's peace: the catholic must garantee the peace of the fiefs, like in the [[File:Feud.png]] medieval europe

[[File:Nrx.png]] Transition to Feudal Ancap system [[File:Anfeu.png]]
Shit, my ancient ideology was retard. so, transition?, that's for gays, it's better a coup d'etat.

[[File:Darwinist.png]] Social Darwinist ethics [[File:Cdar.png]]
He is a bit moderate social darwinist, he thinks that the best should win ever, so yeah you can help poor people, but, is not really neccesary help the poor people, also he he thinks that in economics, the best is the winner ever, and this afirmation makes that companies makes better production and encourage innovation, and in culture, he thinks that the  best culture  should be embraced in our communities. So, he's a bit off compass economically right

[[File:Cball-Japan.png]]Japan
JUST NUKE 5 TIMES JAPAN, LAND OF WEEBS AND DEGENERATE FATHERLESS PEOPLE!, LITTLE BOY AND FAT MAN ARE NOT SUFICCIENT, WE NEED TSAR BOMBS!

Davilanda Triad
Davilanda is conformed by 3 different parts, but they are the same person:


 * [[File:Religious Davilanda.png]] Religious : He regulates the behavior of Davilanda, he forces Davilanda to pray and he forces Davilanda to read the catholic Biblie, also he wants buy a saint benedict medal, he listerns gregorian chants, and he praises for all people on his life, and he try to follow celibate (thing that is contradictory with simpness of retard secular Davilanda).


 * [[File:Philosophical Davilanda.png]] Philosophical (Maybe the knowledger): So based Sigma male. He reads Kant, Aquinas and Hoppe, and he is literally the 50% of the ideology. Don't say retard things, he will cut all your body with his sword because you're commie and retard. Please socialize with him, he Is so alone because he's an based Sigma male and he's autist.


 * [[File:Simp Davilanda.png]] Secular or the worst of the three : He is the non political or religious part of Davilanda, so, he's literally a simp, and also an average SM64 enjoyer, oh fuck, please destroy him, he's an obsessive nerd who "Is so based and chad simp" (not really, he's just a soy fap "enjoyer"). If you says a bad thing about his crush… too late, he will nuke you because "you're a retard incel women's hater".

All of these parts are really important, because Davilanda Is a synthesis of these parts, he debates with all people on his class, he praises for all people he know and reads the bible, and he simps (and he have a temptation with fap sometimes) His crush really much. So, the religious Is the spiritual catholic, the philosopher Is the autist philosopher, and the secular Is the MF SHITTY RETARD SIMP.

[[File:Rural.png]] Technological Beliefs [[File:Techcap.png]] [[File:Farm.png]]
He thinks that technology should just used for comunication and some entertainment, but fundamentally we should appreciate the creation of God (the nature). He thinks that the urban zone should be reduced for cities (or great villages in this case) and with a combination between rural and urban anbient. So yes, he is agrarianist with some technological parts (like medicine, technological services, innovation, etc, and only in great villages).

[[File:NatLaw.png]] Justice and rights [[File:Hoppe.png]]
This is a complicated topic because of all the aspects that I have to get into, but I will do my best to explain the topic. The point is, where do rights come from? Rights come from human nature, understood as what characterizes us as human (so, the reason), as well as from morality and ethics where it is determined which rights are absolute and which are not. This is my first position on the subject (that is, my natural law position)

WIP

[[File:Thomism.png]] Ethics
Davilanda follows a synthesis of virtue ethics and  Deontological ethics.

So, what are the sources of morality? Virtue Ethics (Cathechism of the church 1750-1754):

The morality of human acts depends on: - the object chosen; - the end in view or the intention; - the circumstances of the action. The object, the intention, and the circumstances make up the "sources," or constitutive elements, of the morality of human acts.

The object chosen is a good toward which the will deliberately directs itself. It is the matter of a human act. the object chosen morally specifies the act of the will, insofar as reason recognizes and judges it to be or not to be in conformity with the true good. Objective norms of morality express the rational order of good and evil, attested to by conscience. In contrast to the object, the intention resides in the acting subject. Because it lies at the voluntary source of an action and determines it by its end, intention is an element essential to the moral evaluation of an action. the end is the first goal of the intention and indicates the purpose pursued in the action. the intention is a movement of the will toward the end: it is concerned with the goal of the activity. It aims at the good anticipated from the action undertaken. Intention is not limited to directing individual actions, but can guide several actions toward one and the same purpose; it can orient one's whole life toward its ultimate end. For example, a service done with the end of helping one's neighbor can at the same time be inspired by the love of God as the ultimate end of all our actions. One and the same action can also be inspired by several intentions, such as performing a service in order to obtain a favor or to boast about it. A good intention (for example, that of helping one's neighbor) does not make behavior that is intrinsically disordered, such as lying and calumny, good or just. the end does not justify the means. Thus the condemnation of an innocent person cannot be justified as a legitimate means of saving the nation. On the other hand, an added bad intention (such as vainglory) makes an act evil that, in and of itself, can be good (such as almsgiving).

Deontology (Kant):

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[[File:Theocrat.png]] Existence of God [[File:Catheo.png]]
Davilanda is theist. He believes that exist a God, and it's demonstrable.
 * [[File:Thomism.png]] Aquinas theology: Thomism is the fundamental part of his apologethics, like the quinque viae, and all his book "Summa Theologica"
 * [[File:Muslim 2.png]] Kalam cosmological argument: although Aquinas reject this, he uses this argument for justify his believes in god with atheist classmates.
 * [[File:Christy.png]] Faith argument (self): for empirics, he argument that you are alive for God, you're fine for God, i you aren't, is for a prove of you.
 * [[File:Simp Davilanda.png]] Love argument (also self): If God doesn't exists, Michelle doesn't exists, because the beauty of Michelle is too much that an outside being is needed to create it. But Michelle exists, ergo, God exists.
 * [[File:Virtue ethics icon.png]] Objetive morality argument: if there's no God, there's no objetive morality. But there's objetive moral, ergo, God exists.

Materialism
No, materialism is dumbass, that's simple, you can't say that (for example) the love is material, because love is an abstract thing and doesn't apply the rules of the material world for it.

Egoism or altruism?
Egoism is the decadence of the West, because when you think only of yourself, you have higher time preference, and you don't think in the future, and also egoism is anti-natural, the man tends to be social, and that's logical, because when you teamwork with others (through division of work), the work will be more efficient.

Feels or rationality?
The feelings if we don't have control of them, can be the worst enemy of us.

we can know the truth?
Sometimes, yes, but we need in trascendental things the God's intervention to know the truth

Love
Love,the love is a fundamental part of all my philosophy, and i talk about all loves. but also, fundamentally the romantic love, that make me feel in the heaven, also, the love makes me altruistic, and also Matthew 22:39 (Love your neighbor as yourself.).
 * [[File:Davilanda crush.png]] My neologism (Micheloid): (bad sense): my opposite or for me, scumism . (Good Sense): too beautiful

My crush
That's WIP, but i will do this because my crush made me charge my philosophy radically, and also she Is important for my philosophy. Oh, my crush, my favorite commie, she Is the inspiration of my faps break and the cause of my current philosophy, she Is so beautiful, she brightens the day with her smile, she is literally the best thing that ever happened to me in my short life. So, for her I'm optimistic and positive (a big change if you realize that before I was a shitty depressive).

You must die for something?
Yes, of course, see the apostles dyin g for the truth

Being
Oh... philosophically this breaks my mind. What Is being?, I think being is just exist?, Idk...

Best philosophical epoch
Ez answer,the classical and medieval european epoch. Yeah, medieval for my christianity and for Thomas Aquinas, and the classical for Platon and Aristotle, and also for giving me my most importants philosophical problems (like the problem of evil).

[[File:Aristotle.png]] Movement (or charge) [[File:Thomism.png]]
Movement or charge is "being potentially something to being something", for example, you can potentially have chils, but you don't have childs, so you need to have sexual relations for have childrens, you charged from potentially have childs yo have childs. Or other example, you can potentially move your arms, but you need muscles and bones for move your arms, and you move your arms, so, you charged from potentially move your arms to move your arms.

Free will
The free will is the definitive prove of the existence of soul.

Evolution
Lol, macro-evolution isn't a scientific theory, please give me an evidence of macro-evolution, like a new genus or even a new specie. Also the evolution theory is illogical.

Origins of universe
God created all the world ex nihilo, in a time of million of years.

[[File:Heliocentrist.png]] Heliocentrism or [[File:Geocentrist.png]] Geocentrism
Sorry guys, but i'm geocentrist, there's not a logical and empirical evidence of the heliocentrism (all the "proves" are fallacies), but there's many proves of geocentrism.

Nah just trolling, actually Universe don't have any center

Earth flat or a sphere?
The only way to explain the things in this world effectively is with the round earth, cope flat earthists

Medicine
Yeah, i look like a medieval doctor, but i follow the modern medicine (Maybe with medieval aesthetics).

Virus are live beings?
No WIP

Opinion of non science (all sciences) things
Favorite country: España

Social interaction: ... *unironical autistic screeching :(*

Shitpost: C H A D

Best game: Super Mario 69 64

Love:Love is for soy simps, better celibate

Favorite super hero (yeah, really inmature): Spiderman

Also, WIP

Ideological information

 * Economically: [[File:Capfeud.png]] Laissez-Faire Feudalism ([[File:Austrofeudalismo.png]]Austrian School)


 * Civically: [[File:Urb.png]] Anarcho Feudalist Urbism[[File:Anfeu.png]]


 * Culturally: [[File:Plcn2.png]] [[File: Reactcross.png]] Paleoconservative Medieval Reactionary [[File:Feud.png]] (In [[File: Cball-Spain.png]] spain)


 * Diplomatically: [[File:Cball-Spain.png]] Hispanic Chauvinism [[File:Hispanist.png]]


 * Religion: [[File:Catheo.png]] Catholic "Theocracy" [[File:AnCath.png]]


 * Tecnologically: [[File:Farm.png]] Agrarianism with technological characteristics[[file:Transh.png]]


 * Sexism: [[File:Patriarchal Masculinism.png]] Patriarcal Equality (Maternalism)


 * Homophobia: [[File:Catheo.png]] "Hate the sin, not the sinner" [[File:Straight.png]]

Most influential ideologies: Reactionary Libertarianism  Hoppeanism

Personality
He Is a catholic reactionary ancap, that hates non catholicism, and also hates all progressives and commies. He also Is a white knight, he caress daily a photo of his crush, and if you say a bad thing about her, he will shot you with an AR-15 for "incel and retard". Also he Is a nerdoid, and he don't know how to talk for another thing that isn't humanities or science (social science included)

Friends

 * [[File:Catheo.png]] - The true church of jesus christ, thanks for save me of evil, DEUS VULT!
 * [[File:Reactlib-icon.png]] - wait, you're not just me but belgium?, also goldpilled
 * [[File:Hispanist.png]] Pan-Hispanism - The black legend is over!
 * [[File:Mexican Paleoconservatism.png]] TypicalFan1 Thought - Based, and, redpilled
 * [[File:Honk.png]] - I'm Icecream6969.
 * [[File:Reactcap-alt.png]] Reactionary Capitalism - Based!, just be more feudalist
 * [[File:React.png]] - Lol, i love you so *sounds Little Dark Age*
 * [[File:Crusadism.png]], [[File:Teutonic Order.png]] and [[File:Knight Hospitaller.png]]  - B A S E D    A N D    R E D P I L L E D
 * [[File:SrDeyvidIcon.png]] Sr Deyvid Thought - Best Catholic friend, demasiado épico 😎👌🤑🤙
 * [[File:Thomism.png]] Thomism - Saint Thomas-Aquinas, my favorite saint and MY inspiration for be a saint, i love your philosophy, your theology and your politics, the dumb ox 😎.
 * [[File:Lfree.png]] Laissez-Faireism - My economics
 * [[File:Feud.png]] - Also my economics
 * [[File:Prud.png]] Prudism - YES, WE NEED THAT (but also we need prudent language and conduct)
 * [[File:Kek.png]] Kekistani Nationalism - YOOOO, you are literally me but non feudalist B)
 * [[File:Lfree.png]] The template of economics [[File:Keynes.png]] - i love economics so much
 * [[File:Cball-Bogotá.png]] Bogotá D.C - the best city in Colombia!, i love you Bogotá
 * [[File:Orth.png]] - You are the only non catholic church i accept, also you're based
 * [[File:Anfeu.png]] Anarcho-Feudalism - Me, but without industry
 * [[File:Theocrat.png]] Theocratism - Based, the chuch should regulate the fiefs and garantes peace, also, i think i can fine a solution for your statism, so fine :)
 * [[File:Feud.png]] Medieval Militarism - Chivalric code is based, also with modern guns and and resistent armor, you can defend the fiefs and the Holy Church without problems.
 * [[File:AnCrus.png]] Anarcho-Crusadism - Crusadism, but anarcho bankocrat, so based
 * [[File:Catheo.png]] Romanesque art [[File:Feud.png]] - Literally Micheloid art
 * [[File:Tradwife.png]] Tradwifeism - you understand that womens are good for cooking and cleaning, you're really based, also teach me to how perfectly clean dishes.
 * [[File:Pat.png]] - enceptly for authoritarianism, you in your actual sense are based, but accept that womens are in some cases better that men (not in ruling of course).
 * [[File:Urb.png]] - We need more fiefs like Lienchenstain, but please, unite us culturally and all will be REALLY fine :)
 * [[File:Icon.png]]1000ism, [[File:Icon.png]] 1100ism, [[File:1200ism_icon.png]] 1200ism and [[File:1300ism_icon.png]] 1300ism - Wtf, Based and very redpilled, i love you so much

Frenemies

 * [[File:Aang.png]] Aang - Best Avatar ever!, But you're a hippie and buddhist, that makes you a little worse
 * [[File:Conservative.png]] - lol you based culturally right and cringe comunitarianist
 * [[File:Simp.png]] Simpism - I'm a simp, but you're submissive, it's bad. Wait, you're in the male hierachy? So, I'm a sigma simp?, sussy.
 * [[File:Confem.png]] - Stop being protestant (usually, in western countries), but, you're pro life, it's based 👍
 * [[File:Biphobe.png]] Biphobia - just a gay
 * [[File:Nazi Davilanda.png]] Nazi Davilandism - Me but totalitarian and feminist but now with men.
 * [[File:ModDav.png]] Moderate Davilandism - Me, but More gae
 * [[File:Tony.png]] Retroliberalism - Hum, good person, gae ideology
 * [[File:Icecream6969.png]] Davilandism (but younger)- SIMP SCUM
 * [[File:Connihil.png]] Conservative Nihilism - Yes, you are in the right way, but, our society will break, and after break, we can return to our traditional values :)
 * [[File:CMNF.png]] CMNFism - both should be clothed also i hate doing fap, so, you're a bit disgusting
 * [[File:Kak.png]] - Sometimes you are good with me, but please, stop calling me nigger and also, stop copying me (lol, you can still copying me).
 * [[File:Davilanda crush.png]] Literally when the beauty is in a person - i like you
 * [[File:Antijap.png]] - Based Japophobia, but tipical libleft, very gae the second thing >:(
 * [[File:R-Lib.png]] - the only acceptable liberals, but elightenment is REEE (that doesn't apply with [[File:Reactlib.png]] )
 * [[File:Carlism.png]] - He hates democracy, just be anarchist, retard absolutist
 * [[File:1400ism_icon.png]] 1400ism - Renaissance is gae, but at least you aren't [[File:1700ism.png]] The Elightenment century
 * [[File:1500ism_icon.png]] 1500ism and [[File:1600ism_icon.png]] - you're too moderate (especially 1600's) and yes, renaissance is fucking gay, but decent epoch (1600's are the cause of elightenment, so i hate them a bit)
 * [[File:1800ism.png]] 1800ism - EXTREMELY MODERATE, but, industrial revolution is based, and romanticist art is good
 * - Based, but sate is gay, please be anarchist, and also regulations are gay, even if you're too moderate with that

Enemies
Literally the goverment. Take my discord: Davilanda H#6869
 * [[File:Franco.png]] - state? REEE
 * [[File:Bolivarism.png]] - Oh please, your followers (or almost all colombian and venezuelan people) claims that you liberated a much part of south america from the "spanish genociders", but, they forget that you made a massacre for the pastuso indigenous people in in december 24 of 1822 (being called the black christmass), and also you give away Peru, Colombia and Vuvuzuela to the freemasonery and the bri'ish government, Traitor!
 * [[File:Neoairisu.png]] Neo-Airisuism - Lol you Ancom, wait, you're a Man?
 * [[File:PanBrit.png]] Pan-Anglicism - GFTOH
 * [[File:Korra.png]] - You ruined the Avatar universe, stupid cultural marxist
 * [[File:Marxianism.png]] - STFU
 * [[File:Skyrumism.png]] Skyrumism - Indigenous allendist
 * [[File:Libtard.png]] - You're a guiri!, and i hate guiris, i will kill you isabelian guiri
 * [[File:Uribe.png]] Uribism - You ruined the colombian right, stupid neo keynesian
 * [[File:Neoml.png]] Neo-Marxism–Leninism - Micheloid 😂🤣
 * [[File:Neoml.png]] Neo-Marxism–Leninism - Yes, literally I'm your crush 😐
 * [[File:Petro.png]] Petroism - worst than Uribism, stupid progtard and chavist scum, and, stop with your Succdem mask
 * [[File:ProtTheo.png]] - "lOs cAtÓlIcOs aDoRaN a mAríA" oh please, i think, please don't contact Dong.
 * [[File:Quipitos drugism.png]] Quipitos Drugism - Oh, come on!, you're like a 6 years ago child with a pencil pretending smoke, the only difference, you're (((teen))).
 * [[File:Hippie.png]] - Stop being retard succdem progtard Sometimes that apply with my crush, most of time, that doesn't apply, i refer to "stupid", not with "progtard"
 * [[File:Globetard.png]] - Globohomo, you're the cause of my existence, retard
 * [[File:Heterophobe.png]] Heterophobia - LGBTs
 * [[File:Incel2.png]] Incelism - Oh, you, please don't cry just because girls don't like you, that's disgusting, also stop sexualiting women.
 * [[File:Anime.png]] Animeism - El anime es de Otakus y pringaos que no tienen nada más que hacer que sucumbir a al escapismo de dibujos de personajes en 2D Los consumidores de anime no tienen derechos y debería caer sobre ellos todo el peso de la ley Si tienes avatar de anime tu opinión no solo no cuenta si no que voy a pensar automáticamente lo contrario que me digas En definitiva el anime es basura y fumarlo es de idiotas
 * [[File:Davilanda crush.png]] - Commie women
 * [[File:PagTheo.png]] - oh, FRICKING PAGAN SCUM, YOU CAN'T STOP BEING A STUPID ANIMAL ADORER? YOU ARE A SCUM.
 * [[File:Otakukin.png]] Worst weebs - So, you're schizophrenic weeb
 * [[File:Nihil.png]] Nihilism - oh, thanks Jesus Christ, you saved me for this anti-religious thing
 * [[File:Bankocracy.png]] - Please, read Mises and kill yourself.
 * [[File:Postmodernicon.png]] Post-Modernism - Fuck you 21st century
 * [[File:Ziogay.png]] LGBT Zionism - Lol, actually this is israel
 * [[File:ChristAni.png]] Christian Animeism - oh, please, STOP BEING A OXYMORON!, anime is a pagan heretical japanese scum, so stop being weeb, gae
 * [[File:Satan.png]] - Crux Sacra Sit Mihi Lux, Non Draco Sit Mihi Dux. Vade Retro Satana, Numquam Suade Mihi Vana, Sunt Mala Quae Libas, Ipse Venena Bibas. And also you're an 12 years average atheist
 * [[File:Muslim_2.png]] - Christ is the Son of God my friend, accept him in your heart
 * [[File:1700ism.png]] 1700ism - Elightenment's century (gay), at least less gay than the 20th and the (((21st))) century
 * - Gei
 * - gei
 * [[File:pixil-frame-0(27).png]] New Model Of Cheesenism - Man, your ideology is literally from an average hispanist but without the hispanism
 * [[File:OwfBall.png]] Owfism - Retard, that's the truth [[File:Troll.png]]

Warnings
1. I don't know really much english, so please if you see an error, please correct it 2. Shit, i already know that some parts are so cringe (even for me), but really that cringe things aren't unnecesary, because the develop of my ideology Is also based in that cringe things.

Coments
- Add me reactionary chad.
 * - add me please
 * - Add me?
 * [[File:Icecream6969.png]] Davilanda13 - wait more time, please
 * - You're like me but Ancap
 * [[File:Icecream6969.png]] Davilanda13 - true, but also you're volcel, that makes you better than me XD
 * - Add me?
 * - You ever heard of NRx? I think you'll like it
 * [[File:Icecream6969.png]] Davilanda13 - men, NRx are just hoppeanos with state, so they're gays
 * [[File:SCT.png]]Sílas Carrasco - Can you add me pls?
 * [[File:Icecream6969.png]] Davilanda13 - and you're who?
 * [[File:Icecream6969.png]] Davilanda13 - shit, based culturally, but you're prottie, and authoritarianism Is gay
 * Ronwelltarianism_icon.png Ronwelltarianism - Can you please add me?
 * [[File:OwfBall.png]] Owfism - Add me to relations
 * [[File:Noelism-icon.png]] Noelism - Good news, Chilean leftoid constitution got BTFO'd. Also add me?
 * [[File:OwfBall.png]] Owfism - It seems you have mentioned some arguments (2 of you are made by yourself so I am not gonna really touch on them). The first being the [[File:Thomism.png]] theological argument, now, this uses an argument by analogy. More specifically, it was used by Paley through the watchmaker analogy. It would thus be asked what would we think if we found a watch on the ground, did it appear spontaneously Is it a dream [[File:Rene_Descartes_.png]] or is it thought through its complexity, how it was made in order to be a watch. Then the watch must have been made by someone on purpose right? Through this, Paley argued that the teleology of the watch would come to the conclusion that there was an intelligent creator, that being God, that created it. So through this argument, if there is a watch maker, there must be also be a world maker. Right? And that is obviously, in this case, God. However, Paley also compared a watch to a human, but I am not talking about that.

Now, personally, I don't believe in the conclusion that god exists, nor this argument, so, I shall come up with a disanalogy of sorts. Situation A and B are thus too different to be able to work. Yes, we can take a look at a watch and look at the gear, how it was assembled onto the watch yada yada yada, but, there is something wrong here: If god, the interpretation of god, the main one at least, an all-good, all-powerful being would give our eyes a blind spot? Like, what's the point of a blind spot? If the omni-god, one which is omnipotent, omnibenevolent, a.k.a all-powerful and all-good, would give us something bad and useless? Like, if he does something bad, then that means he is not all-good, thus he is not omnibenevolent. I could go on about how the omni-god doesn't make sense, but I am just gonna stick to the theological argument.

Paley would response to this by saying that just because we don't know there is a purpose doesn't mean there is one, however, this is contradictory, because his whole argument for god is that you should look at the world and see purpose. So if we see things that are working great, and others that are not working so great, now that's flawed.

Let's take a look at Bertrand Russell's analogy: Why would god give a bunny a white tail? So hunters can shoot at it? Now, yet again, that debunks the fact that god is omnibenevolent, since he gave bunnies a bad purpose, which well, is not an all-good thing.

The point: If we invent purposes rather than recognizing ones that are inherently there, then we create purpose, not God, then if you believe that god made eyes so can we see then God must have also made fingers to be picked by noses and rabbit tails as bullseyes and blind spots as a way for us to be in a car accident.

So, the counter-argument is (since this is too long and I am not touching the other arguments and other ways of debunking this) We don't get to just pick and choose and say God designed the stuff we want him to have designed and not the other stuff.

(Ik its pretty weird to just make a really long comment debunking your beliefs in god, but, I was bored.
 * [[File:Icecream6969.png]] Davilanda13 - I never used that argument, you dumbass (joking [[File:Troll.png]], but i never used that argument)
 * [[File:Icecream6969.png]] Davilanda - I don't care