Talk:Rejuvenative Hamburg thought

Requests to be added in relationships section
Reactionary-Cheesenism-add me pls
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - done, please do the same.

Tony567- i updated my ideology bit update as well please?
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Done, now add me back bozo
 * Done
 * [[File:OwfBall.png]] Owfism - My ideology has changed, can you judge my new ideology now?
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Done!


 * - Add me.


 * [[File:Panth.png]]Pantheonism - Füg mich mal zu deinen Beziehungen hinzu verdammter Vaterlandsverräter.

Archived Conversations
Older convos, do not write anything in this section! {{Collapse| {{NameNeoAlphadonialism}} Add me? {{Divider}} User:Tony567 - interesting but rather cringe add me and i will add you back User:Tony567- officially changed ideology can you update pls by the way i am now also a separatist just like you {{Divider}} {{UserMatteel}} - Hello could you add me to your page, i'm curious as to what you think of my ideology {{Divider}}
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Done! Would appreciate if you did the same.
 * {{NameNeoAlphadonialism}} Done.
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - I don't understand your judgement but okay. Like, what rights? And where tf did you gather that I'm a state capitalist?
 * {{NameNeoAlphadonialism}} You hating the animal rights and your statement making all companies public (state capitalism isn't the government controlling the economy but supporting companies via public revenue).
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Animal rights thing is fair then, the state capitalism thing is a misunderstanding though since I haven't finished these sections; in the "Overview" section I explain that I'm for worker ownership except for fully automated industries which, yes, should have export/profit as a secondary priority. Main thing is still direct worker ownership though, not "all companies" should be government owned, just the fully automated ones.
 * {{NameNeoAlphadonialism}} Fair then, I will still put you in Enemies tho because I don't like Urbism, and the immigration system is pretty cringe tbh, especially the "Be of over 50% Germanic ethnicity" part. Sounds like eugenics...
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - I wouldn't call it eugenics, rest is fair tho (although I obviously disagree)
 * {{NameNeoAlphadonialism}} I would also say it's kind of racist.
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - I'd define racism mainly as prejudice and supremacism, exclusion too, sure, but it makes sense in the context of a nation-state. I don't have double standards, I don't expect getting let into the state of another nation either. For global diversity we need to keep our differences which means preservation, of all peoples equally, and that necessitates exclusion in immigration.
 * {{NameNeoAlphadonialism}} So you're going to reject an immigrant, possibly looking for a job and you are going to say "Well you are not getting the job, well because you're not 50% German," while the same person with a 50% German ethnicity gets the job. I don't see why you would want to be an ethnopluralist, but I don't want to force my opinion, so you do you.
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - In case you're interested we could talk further/ have a proper debate on discord but it seems like you're fine with leaving it here so I'll archive this 12:38, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - I disagree with your analysis of calling my "cringe" and "wacky" but I appreciate you reading this page and adding me to your relationships thingy, I shall do the same with yours. JonahF2014 (talk) 20:19, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Tony567 hold off on adding me i am going through a ideological shift and might chase ideology’s
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Too late. But that's great to hear, my critique exactly; I hope you change for the better and be sure to notify me when your page is updated so that I may update my judgement as well! JonahF2014 (talk) 22:51, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Tony567 Question have discord? I can invite you to PCBF thats were most of the people on this wiki are.
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - My discord is on my profile, feel free to add me or join my server but I don't really want to join a PCB sever, if I did I would've done so already. JonahF2014 (talk) 00:08, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Ok will do, very epic! JonahF2014 (talk) 12:21, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Tony567- I want to explain a few points. my opposition to socialism is just as pragmatic and personal as it is ideological on the pragmatic front south Florida(my living area and area i want to make independent) is very anti-socialist so it’s unlikely it can be put in place.as for the personal reasons my family are 3rd generations refugees for Cuba who fled when Castro confiscated there stuff and for that i can not support the Cuban Government. As for my free market healthcare thing  it is largely because  south Florida cant support a universal one.by the way thanks for showing me tinyism it is very nice.through south Florida is not a city state because it has four major cities(Miami,Orlando,Tampa,and St.Petersburg).
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - I suppose pragmatism (I assume in the electoral sense here) makes sense however the point of a self-insert is to describe your own ideology, if you see socialism as something that is realistic and favorable I think you should describe it as such; for on the difficulty of implementation I'd disagree, obviously I don't know the situation your area is actually in but looking at surveys and whatnot people tend to agree with socialist ideas as long as you don't mention the word "socialism". Just keep away from buzzwords and you should be perfectly fine in implementation for most things. You also mentioned that there are a few cities in the area you'd consider "South Florida" and seeing as major population centers tend to be more liberal (or even left wing) I don't see things like medicare for all as unrealistic, however again, you might just want to stay away from buzzwords white still advocating for the same system. For you personal reasons I can't give much comment as I don't have any insight into your family history but I suspect that if there was something worth confiscating they deserved it. The Cuban government is more democratic than the american one and beloved by the locals, aggressive imperialism and regime change is disgusting no matter the government is place but especially for such a bastion of socialism (even if it's far from perfect). Yeah if you consider "South Florida" to go upto Orlando that's definitely not Tinism, but it's nice to see you have gotten at least inspiration from it, regular separatism is at least better than the status quo. If you'd like to discuss further I'd suggest doing so on discord, as I said my tag is on my profile so feel free to add me. JonahF2014 (talk) 22:10, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * User:Tony567- unfortunately i can only access discord on the weekends sorry.now on to the other stuff while i do sympathize and even like some form of socialism(my favorite being market socialism)i overall find to utopian for my taste.as for the Medicare for all thing the reason i said that is because a South Floridan Government wont be able to support one because of the budget. Without A.massively withdrawing funding for other just as essential services or B.massively raising taxes with who never fly down here.As for my family the only reason i can think of is that one of my great-grandfathers was the regional  manager of a American owned electrify company.as for your comment about Cuba i disagree this why the U.S is not the most democratic county in world it is still more democratic than Cuba and the local do not like as can be seen in the Marial boat lift and Cuban rafter crisis of 1994.but yeah I know it is not Tinism and in all honesty there’s no point into splitting South Florida in too different pieces because we all share one cultural identity. Any sorry cant use discord right know once it the weekend i will use it thanks.
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Sure, I'd like to continue over discord on the weekend then, just add me when you have access or give me your tage I'll add you so that you can accept whenever you get to it^^ 00:07, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Ok JonahF2014 (talk) 12:21, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Ok, I've added you now; I'd appreciate if you'd do the same :) JonahF2014 (talk) 13:27, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * {{UserMatteel}} - Added.
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - I'm willing to elaborate on my positions if you have any specific questions & want me to ;) 31 March 2022

Requests to be added to the relationships section
- Add me ? - Add me to your relations tab. - Could you please add me as well? - Add catism and variants (very based cats) User:Tony567 I have take the red pill and now is a socialist my ideology is now South Floridan Socialism - Ay there, add me? - Add me? Owfism - Can you add me?
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Done! Would appreciate if you did the same.
 * - I added you back:)
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Done! Would appreciate if you did the same. 15:58, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - I have successfully completed reading your page and added you to my relationships thingy, I would kindly as you to return the favor. 20:05, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Done. I'll only add the base tho, not the variants
 * - y tho
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Because this is a serious page and I don't need 100 variants of "cats are good" in my relationshp page, especially when most of them are fictional/memes
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Very based, I've seen. I'll read it and add you soon!
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Done!
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Done! Had your page open for a while but only got around to reading it now that you reminded me^^. Also interesting you'd classify me as leftnat, I wouldn't do that personally but sure
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Done! Would appreciate if you did the same
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Done; I'd kindly ask you to return the favor.

Applethesky2021 - Add me? }}
 * [[File:Hamburger.png]] User:JonahF2014 - Bruh how? You literally haven't written anything yet. Remind me when there is content on your page and I'll be sure to add you.